• Re: NVMe versus SATA in desktops?

    From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Tracker1 on Thu Jul 13 07:20:00 2023
    Tracker1 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I have a 4th generation i7 desktop running Windows 10. It's got 16GB of ram and a SATA SSD. I'm debating about upgrading my desktop PC, I'm looking to upgrade to a newer (10th gen or higher CPU), more cores, and trying to buy some extended life for my PC.

    You're going to have to replace your motherboard and ram as well... and even an RX 6600 is likely faster than the GPU from ~8 years ago
    (assuming it's that old as well).. so best to just plan on a
    replacement, unless you really like your case. Your PSU may be comming close to EOL as well.


    Upgrading = replacing the whole kit. Sorry I wasn't clearer. I'm
    looking for a new system. BTW, I have an Nvidia GTX 1030 in my current
    system. I can get 50 fps playing the only modern game I play.

    Real world, you won't notice the difference from SATA too much. I
    mostly notice when building large projects or doing things like a
    message scan, where you're accessing the contents of many files in a relatively short turn around... For a very large web project, HDD to
    SATA SSD goes from minutes to around a minute. Going from SATA SSD to
    Gen 4 PCIE NVME is a couple seconds. So it depends on your usage, but
    for playing games, web, general use you aren't likely to notice.

    I have 2 Proxmox servers - my old one is a Thinkpad with an i7, the new
    one is a Dell Optiplex i5 with a NVMe. I definitely see a difference
    running VMs, wasn't sure about desktop results. I'm mostly doing web,
    office, photoshop and games here, some transcoding of media.


    That said, the pricing is on par between the two, with NVME being much faster in some cases. Most current motherboards have at least 1 and as many as 3-4 NVME slots, so you might as well. Bonus, no cable clutter.
    Those last points (mb support, similar price, no cables) aare the main reasons I just say go nvme.

    After growing up with MFM and floppy drives, I can appreciate a lack of
    cables. :)

    Things to look for are DRAM cache over "SLC" cache... the former is dedicated dram, the latter is a portion of memory that is using SLC
    mode for faster access... The drives of the former being a bit better quality generally speaking, but again, unlikely to notice a difference
    in day to day usage.

    I'm partial to Samsung, WD Black, Solidigm and Sabrent (Rocket Line).

    Thanks for sharing! This is very helpful.




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Bf2k+ on Thu Jul 13 07:22:00 2023
    Bf2k+ wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I have 4 NVMe 2tb drives in my desktop along with a single 2tb SATA
    drive. While I don't have any numbers to post, the SATA is by far the slowest drive on the system and it is noticeable. The desktop is a
    core i9 12th gen running Windows 10 Pro. /s

    My goal here is to future-proof a new system, your insight confirms that
    even though I'd be happy with SATA SSDs now, I'd end up regretting it in a couple of years when NVMe gets cheap and SATA SSDs feel like spinning
    rust does now.



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